{"id":1985,"date":"2020-06-30T09:28:26","date_gmt":"2020-06-30T09:28:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/blog\/?p=1985"},"modified":"2023-03-03T17:01:56","modified_gmt":"2023-03-03T17:01:56","slug":"who-was-elise","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/blog\/who-was-elise\/","title":{"rendered":"Who was Elise?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-mystery-of-beethoven-s-fur-elise\">The Mystery of Beethoven&#8217;s <em>F\u00fcr Elise<\/em> <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Beethoven&#8217;s F\u00fcr Elise &#8211; Bagatelle 25 in A minor &#8211; is one of our favorites at music scores.&nbsp; Beethoven died in 1827 but the music wasn&#8217;t published until 40 years afterwards.  Ludwig Nohl, a German music scholar and writer, discovered the manuscript. He published the bagatelle in his book <em>New Beethoven Letters<\/em> in 1867. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No one knows for certain who Elise was.  Nohl may have even transcribed the title incorrectly and it should have read <em>F\u00fcr Therese<\/em>.&nbsp; The music may have been dedicated to one of the following three ladies&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Therese Malfatti&nbsp;von Rohrenbach zu Dezza<\/h3>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Therese_Malfatti_Anonymus.jpg\" alt=\"This image has an empty alt attribute; its file name is Therese_Malfatti_Anonymus.jpg\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong><a aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" class=\"yoast-seo-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Therese_Malfatti\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Therese Malfatti&nbsp;von Rohrenbach zu Dezza<\/a><\/strong> was a student and friend of Beethoven.&nbsp; She was very much the object of his affections and apparently turned down his proposal in 1810.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Beethoven wrote a letter to her in that year which ended with the words:-<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-style-plain is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now fare you well, respected Therese. I wish you all the good and beautiful things of this life. Bear me in memory \u2014 no one can wish you a brighter, happier life than I \u2014 even should it be that you care not at all for.&nbsp; Your devoted servant and friend&nbsp;Beethoven.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Her personal papers supposedly included a copy of&nbsp;F\u00fcr Elise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-elisabeth-rockel\">Elisabeth&nbsp;R\u00f6ckel<\/h3>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/340px-Elisabeth_R%C3%B6ckel.jpg\" alt=\"This image has an empty alt attribute; its file name is 340px-Elisabeth_R\u00f6ckel.jpg\" width=\"170\" height=\"238\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Elisabeth_R%C3%B6ckel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elisabeth&nbsp;R\u00f6ckel<\/a><\/strong> was a German Soprano singer who became friends with Beethoven in 1808. Many sources state that Beethoven met with her regularly and wanted to marry her.&nbsp; However, they never did marry and Elisabeth later married Beethoven&#8217;s friend <a href=\"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/blog\/hummel\/\">Johann Nepomuk Hummel<\/a><em>.  <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She is named &#8220;Elis R\u00f6kel&#8221; in the register for residents of the theatre she is named .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:13px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-elise-barensfeld\">Elise Barensfeld<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" class=\"yoast-seo-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Elise_Barensfeld\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elise Barensfeld<\/a><\/strong>  was a 13 year old who travelled on tours with Beethoven&#8217;s friend&nbsp;Johann Nepomuk M\u00e4lzel, and Beethoven named the song after her as a favour to Therese Malfatti who lived opposite M\u00e4lzel&#8217;s and Barensfeld&#8217;s residence.&nbsp; He might have given her piano lessons&#8230; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Overall this contender seems less plausible<em>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Take a look on music-scores.com for over <a href=\"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/sheet-music\/beethoven.php\">225 downloads<\/a> of Beethoven&#8217;s music.  Read our post on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.music-scores.com\/blog\/how-to-play-fur-elise\/\">How to play F\u00fcr Elise<\/a> if you are a beginner.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Mystery of Beethoven&#8217;s F\u00fcr Elise Beethoven&#8217;s F\u00fcr Elise &#8211; Bagatelle 25 in A minor &#8211; is one of our favorites at music scores.&nbsp; Beethoven died in 1827 but the music wasn&#8217;t published until 40 years afterwards. Ludwig Nohl, a German music scholar and writer, discovered the manuscript. 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